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[_] Cyclist deaths in London

Jon Free jon.free at wastesource.co.uk
Thu Nov 14 13:13:46 GMT 2013

The cyclist gave the driver the opportunity to overtake. Now I agree that
the driver probably shouldn't have taken that opportunity but the cyclist
had the first say.


On 14 November 2013 13:10, Tim Wintle <timwintle at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-11-14 at 12:58 +0000, Jon Free wrote:
> > Mirrors like these ones?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzL0Kyk4m-8
>
> Wow - great video
>
> > And your video is actually an excellent example of the cyclist causing
> the
> > incident.
>
> Sorry - I'm normally on the motorist's side, but I think this example is
> very clearly the driver's fault. If the cyclist was going left they
> should indicate. They didn't - so the lorry has to assume they are going
> straight ahead.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> >  First rule on the motorbike course, own your road space. She
> > takes a massive dive into the curb just before the truck catches her up.
> > Signalling that's she's potentially going left and giving the truck
> plenty
> > of room to manoeuvre past. Had she been a foot further out from the curb
> > the truck driver wouldn't have gone for it because he couldn't.
> >
> >
> > On 14 November 2013 12:50, Oliver Humpage <oliver at watershed.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 14 Nov 2013, at 12:44, Jon Free <jon.free at wastesource.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Only this morning I saw a good friend slip down the side of a HGV and
> > > > nearly get flattened. The HGV drivers fault?
> > >
> > > Firstly, that's what mirrors are for. Think Netherlands-style strict
> > > liability:
> > >
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2013/11/cycling-v-cars
> > >
> > > Secondly, in an car-accident blackspot, motorists go up in arms and
> demand
> > > better infrastructure. No-one talks about re-educating motorists to
> drive
> > > better.
> > >
> > > Thirdly, most accidents are caused by this kind of driving:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZCS3FLgYWM
> > >
> > > Oliver.
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