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[_] invention - patents - where to start

Sam Mignano - Analyst sam at beyondmetrix.com
Tue Jun 24 17:29:42 BST 2008

Cheers Laura - their innovations clinic looks perfect! I will try that,
thanks :)

Sam

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-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Sharples [mailto:Laura.Sharples at mediaclash.co.uk] 
Sent: 24 June 2008 17:02
To: 'underscore at under-score.org.uk'
Subject: Re: [_] invention - patents - where to start

Hiya Sam,

Business West run a regular patents/IP clinic.  Details are here:
http://www.businesswest.co.uk/PDF/Branches%20Specialist%20Advice%20Clinics%2
0(New)%2003.07.07.pdf

Not sure if you need to be a member or, not, but it's worth a shot...

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: OT: Architect? (Joe Leech)
   2. Re: OT: Architect? (Andy Davies)
   3. PHP Programmer needed (Stuart Gallemore)
   4. OT: Renting a house (Keir Moffatt)
   5. Re: OT: Renting a house (Matt Kane)
   6. Re: OT: Renting a house (Keir Moffatt)
   7. Re: OT: Architect? (Peter Marshall)
   8. Re: OT: Renting a house (Jason Nevin)
   9. invention - patents - where to start (Sam Mignano - Analyst)
  10. <button></button> or <input type="button" />? (speed wolf)
  11. Re: OT: Architect? (James Fidell)
  12. Re: OT: Architect? (Wills Fidell)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:02:34 +0100
From: "Joe Leech" <me at mrjoe.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Architect?
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
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> Does one need an architect to do these things? I have no idea, never
> having undertaken a building project before! And what sort of
> architect to contact? Does anyone have a recommendation or advice?

A structural engineer should be able to do it.  My brother-in-law (a
structural engineer) does jobs like this if you want me to put you in
touch with him,

joe



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:05:45 +0100
From: "Andy Davies" <dajdavies at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Architect?
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
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2008/6/24 Laura Francis <laura.k.francis at gmail.com>:
> hi All,
>
> This is totally off topic but... We are thinking of having an
> extension to the back of our house which would involve knocking out
> and supporting a supporting wall, ideally a bespoke glass structure,
> rerouting drain pipes and current sewage outflow and putting in a new
> kitchen.
>
> Does one need an architect to do these things? I have no idea, never
> having undertaken a building project before! And what sort of
> architect to contact? Does anyone have a recommendation or advice?
>

You could try this for some initial ideas:
http://www.architectinthehouse.org.uk/

Cheers

Andy



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:58:28 +0100
From: "Stuart Gallemore" <stuart.gallemore at gmail.com>
Subject: [_] PHP Programmer needed
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
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Hi Folks,

We are now very much in need of a strong PHP programmer. In the short
term someone with Zend Framework and/or Magento Experience (not sure
that the or is actually possible there), We are happy for this to be a
freelancer, or someone interested in a full time position with us -
either way we would need you to work from our office.

In the longer term (i.e full time, or a freelancer who wants a longer
relationship) a broader knowledge of PHP and experience in producing
full web applications using frameworks and a good understanding of OO
programming and web security are essential (and an ability to express
that ability in some way).

We are a fun bunch to work with and we live in the city centre (so its
pretty convenient for travel, pubs and lunch choices).
find out more about us here: http://www.nameless.co.uk/

We have had a lot of CVs sent to us, and sorry if we have received one
from you in the past but not personally responded (we do get a lot) -
if we did and didn't get back to you then you probably didn't really
express your PHP skills very well, so if we overlooked that
erroneously then let us know!

Recruiters: We don't want you to call us to put us on your lists - in
fact I don't want to take calls from you as a first method of contact,
however, if you have someone who fits the bill above (I mean really
actually does, not a Java programmer who might be interested, or
someone with the keyword PHP somewhere on their CV under intermediate
skills or hobbies) then feel free to email us (a personal email not a
sign up to your mailing list) and let us call you if we are
interested.

-Stu



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:21:45 +0100
From: "Keir Moffatt" <hello at iamkeir.com>
Subject: [_] OT: Renting a house
To: Underscore <underscore at under-score.org.uk>
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Hi all,

Just wondered if:

1) Anyone has/knows of any properties/rooms to let, ideally in the Clifton
or Redland area (ideally 2/3 bedroom)?
2) Can recommend any agencies that I haven't got on my list (currently got
lists from Kingsley Thomas, Terry Olpin, Anthony James and intend on getting
some lists from Rents Direct, Abode, Flatline, Jacksons, Digs)
3) Any local newspapers and magazines (I will be checking Evening Post and
Metro although I forget which day is for Lets)
4) Any decent websites dealing with property in Bristol (I've tried Gumtree
so far and have been googling for others)
5) Any sources I haven't yet tapped into?

Any feedback would be really useful to compliment my own searches.

Thanks,

Keir
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:30:01 +0100
From: Matt Kane <ascorbic at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Renting a house
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
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On 24 Jun 2008, at 15:21, Keir Moffatt wrote:

> 1) Anyone has/knows of any properties/rooms to let, ideally in the
> Clifton
> or Redland area (ideally 2/3 bedroom)?
> 2) Can recommend any agencies that I haven't got on my list
> (currently got
> lists from Kingsley Thomas, Terry Olpin, Anthony James and intend on
> getting
> some lists from Rents Direct, Abode, Flatline, Jacksons, Digs)
> 3) Any local newspapers and magazines (I will be checking Evening
> Post and
> Metro although I forget which day is for Lets)
> 4) Any decent websites dealing with property in Bristol (I've tried
> Gumtree
> so far and have been googling for others)
> 5) Any sources I haven't yet tapped into?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/ is pretty much all you ever need, agency-
wise. They have pretty much all of them.



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:36:42 +0100
From: "Keir Moffatt" <hello at iamkeir.com>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Renting a house
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
Message-ID:
        <770032030806240736x7777a471l90fce353997b737 at mail.gmail.com>
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Cheers Matt, v. useful.

Keir

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Matt Kane <ascorbic at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 24 Jun 2008, at 15:21, Keir Moffatt wrote:
>
> > 1) Anyone has/knows of any properties/rooms to let, ideally in the
> > Clifton
> > or Redland area (ideally 2/3 bedroom)?
> > 2) Can recommend any agencies that I haven't got on my list
> > (currently got
> > lists from Kingsley Thomas, Terry Olpin, Anthony James and intend on
> > getting
> > some lists from Rents Direct, Abode, Flatline, Jacksons, Digs)
> > 3) Any local newspapers and magazines (I will be checking Evening
> > Post and
> > Metro although I forget which day is for Lets)
> > 4) Any decent websites dealing with property in Bristol (I've tried
> > Gumtree
> > so far and have been googling for others)
> > 5) Any sources I haven't yet tapped into?
>
> http://www.rightmove.co.uk/ is pretty much all you ever need, agency-
> wise. They have pretty much all of them.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:46:21 +0100
From: Peter Marshall <marshallp at sparkdata.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Architect?
To: "underscore at under-score.org.uk" <underscore at under-score.org.uk>
Message-ID:
        <339FD33976920A41BABAD7DF0B612DF924C9AEC05D at zenda2.sparkdata.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

> Does one need an architect to do these things? I have no idea, never
> having undertaken a building project before! And what sort of
> architect to contact? Does anyone have a recommendation or advice?


Bit like websites innit?  You don't *have* to employ a designer, you *could*
get some ideas off the shelf, or go to some engineers and get them do work
it from the technical side - but would you?



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:57:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: Jason Nevin <jason_nevin at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Renting a house
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
Message-ID: <860041.87058.qm at web27907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

+1 RightMove


----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Kane <ascorbic at gmail.com>
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
Sent: Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 3:30:01 PM
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Renting a house


On 24 Jun 2008, at 15:21, Keir Moffatt wrote:

> 1) Anyone has/knows of any properties/rooms to let, ideally in the?
> Clifton
> or Redland area (ideally 2/3 bedroom)?
> 2) Can recommend any agencies that I haven't got on my list?
> (currently got
> lists from Kingsley Thomas, Terry Olpin, Anthony James and intend on?
> getting
> some lists from Rents Direct, Abode, Flatline, Jacksons, Digs)
> 3) Any local newspapers and magazines (I will be checking Evening?
> Post and
> Metro although I forget which day is for Lets)
> 4) Any decent websites dealing with property in Bristol (I've tried?
> Gumtree
> so far and have been googling for others)
> 5) Any sources I haven't yet tapped into?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/ is pretty much all you ever need, agency-
wise. They have pretty much all of them.

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:26:52 +0100
From: "Sam Mignano - Analyst" <sam at beyondmetrix.com>
Subject: [_] invention - patents - where to start
To: <underscore at under-score.org.uk>
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Hi All,
I have an invention (don't laugh!) which I am thinking of patenting and I
need to know if you can do it yourself, or if its expensive to do. It's
horse related, and is a product.
Even with a patent, I know stuff like that is only really as protected as
the money you are willing to spend enforcing it, but I need to find out
potential costs etc.
Has anyone ever patented a product before and willing to share experiences?
Thanks in advance for any help - on or offlist, I don't mind.
Sam

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:37:45 +0100
From: "speed wolf" <speedwolf at gmail.com>
Subject: [_] <button></button> or <input type="button" />?
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
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        <2d3adca0806240837w5c855348ka463922ce311cd15 at mail.gmail.com>
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I know that <button> is the more recent of the two options, but does that
necessarily make it the right choice?

Obviously it's the more semantically correct of the two but input with a
type of button is in greater use on the web at large.
Comments and advice would be greatly appreciated.

--
Pete


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:44:54 +0100
From: James Fidell <james at cloud9.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Architect?
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
Message-ID: <48611676.4010606 at cloud9.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Peter Marshall wrote:
>> Does one need an architect to do these things? I have no idea, never
>> having undertaken a building project before! And what sort of
>> architect to contact? Does anyone have a recommendation or advice?
>
>
> Bit like websites innit?  You don't *have* to employ a designer, you
*could* get some ideas off the shelf, or go to some engineers and get them
do work it from the technical side - but would you?
>

Indeed so.  Because architects never design things that can't be built,
run massively over budget or use your project as a testbed for some
bizarre new technology most people have never heard of and builders have
no idea how to use properly.

James



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:47:21 +0100
From: Wills Fidell <wills at endeavourcode.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [_] OT: Architect?
To: underscore at under-score.org.uk
Message-ID: <48611709.6010400 at endeavourcode.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

James Fidell wrote:
> Peter Marshall wrote:
>>> Does one need an architect to do these things? I have no idea, never
>>> having undertaken a building project before! And what sort of
>>> architect to contact? Does anyone have a recommendation or advice?
>>
>> Bit like websites innit?  You don't *have* to employ a designer, you
*could* get some ideas off the shelf, or go to some engineers and get them
do work it from the technical side - but would you?
>>
>
> Indeed so.  Because architects never design things that can't be built,
> run massively over budget or use your project as a testbed for some
> bizarre new technology most people have never heard of and builders have
> no idea how to use properly.
>
> James
>

However, if a website falls over you don't get hit by a brick

W



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