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Tue Apr 1 16:59:16 BST 2008

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>  Joel Hughes 	
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>  More options	  11:05 (5 hours ago)
> Hi,
>
> been lurking on the list for a little while, but have a question now.
>
> I'm building a site - table based naturally (none of that CSS malarky!) -
> what's the preferred way to achieve a scrolling text marquee where the text
> goes backwards?
>
> Tks,
>
> Joel
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>  Christian Wach 	
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>  More options	  11:10 (5 hours ago)
> On 1 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Joel Hughes wrote:
>
> > I'm building a site - table based naturally (none of that CSS
> > malarky!) - what's the preferred way to achieve a scrolling text
> > marquee where the text goes backwards?
>
> You can do this with the <blink> tag and just one simple style
> declaration, but I forget which one.
>
> HTH,
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>  Matt Kane 	
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>  More options	  11:12 (5 hours ago)
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> On 1 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Joel Hughes wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > been lurking on the list for a little while, but have a question now.
> >
> > I'm building a site - table based naturally (none of that CSS
> > malarky!) -
> > what's the preferred way to achieve a scrolling text marquee where
> > the text
> > goes backwards?
> >
> >
>
> Probably best to use a Java applet like the BBC News site used to.
> Flash is another option, but I hear that not many browsers have it
> installed yet. You could also create an animated gif with the text.
>
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> Matt Kane, Lead Developer, Clementine
> http://www.clevr.com/
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> Clementine is a trading name of Sphex LLP
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>  Wills Fidell 	
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>  More options	  11:22 (5 hours ago)
> Matt Kane wrote:
> > On 1 Apr 2008, at 11:05, Joel Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> been lurking on the list for a little while, but have a question now.
> >>
> >> I'm building a site - table based naturally (none of that CSS
> >> malarky!) -
> >> what's the preferred way to achieve a scrolling text marquee where
> >> the text
> >> goes backwards?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Probably best to use a Java applet like the BBC News site used to.
> > Flash is another option, but I hear that not many browsers have it
> > installed yet. You could also create an animated gif with the text.
> >
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> > Matt Kane, Lead Developer, Clementine
> > http://www.clevr.com/
> >
> > Clementine is a trading name of Sphex LLP
> >
> >
>
> Or simply print a request that the users moves their head from left to
> right in a type writer style motion.
>
> I have tested this with Netscape 4.1 and it works like a charm.
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>  Joe Leech 	
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>  More options	  11:25 (5 hours ago)
> >  what's the preferred way to achieve a scrolling text marquee where the text
> >  goes backwards?
>
> Be careful with the usability here.  It's often better to speed the
> text up if possible because users often complain that these scrolling
> text things are rather slow.   Also what works well is having 2 lines
> scroll independently (better in opposite directions),  as again, users
> often say they like the choice of one or more things to read (see
> Blomberg news!) It's often easier to display the text quite small to
> squeeze things in.
>
> JavaScript can be used, see technique here:
> http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/03/epilepsy
>
> joe
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>  theUKdude 	
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>  More options	  11:28 (5 hours ago)
> Matt Kane wrote on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:12 AM
>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > been lurking on the list for a little while, but have a question now.
> > >
> > > I'm building a site - table based naturally (none of that CSS
> > > malarky!) -
> > > what's the preferred way to achieve a scrolling text marquee where
> > > the text
> > > goes backwards?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Probably best to use a Java applet like the BBC News site used to.
> > Flash is another option, but I hear that not many browsers have it
> > installed yet. You could also create an animated gif with the text.
>
> Are you mad? Animated gifs should only be used for spinning logos, rainbow
> effects and dancing animals. I agree about the Java applet though. Maybe you
> should place it in a frameset. Also, a short looping midi background sound
> would help soothe the user when reading the scrolling marquee maybe?
>
> theUKdude
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>  Tim Perrett 	
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>  More options	  11:38 (5 hours ago)
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> > Are you mad? Animated gifs should only be used for spinning logos,
> > rainbow
> > effects and dancing animals.
>
> Or wiggling logo sperm as we seen not so long ago in another thread!
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>  Joel Hughes 	
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>  More options	  11:47 (5 hours ago)
> Great!But I want a cleaner way of going it using only Frontpage Server
> Extensions (not the latest version, Rackspace won't let me have it yet)...
> Any MS Frontpage devs out there?
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Christian Wach <needle at haystack.co.uk>
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>  Ritesh Patel 	
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>  More options	  11:58 (4 hours ago)
> The one thing you have to be consider with the midi background is that
> people with Soundblaster AWE32 'wavetable' sound cards will get a
> slightly better experience than those who don't.  Trumpets in
> particular are enhanced on a wavetable sound card, so try not to use
> them too much, so your users can get as similar experience to each
> other as possible.
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>  s'unya 	
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>  More options	  11:35 (5 hours ago)
> >
> >
> > Are you mad? Animated gifs should only be used for spinning logos, rainbow
> > effects and dancing animals. I agree about the Java applet though. Maybe
> > you
> > should place it in a frameset. Also, a short looping midi background sound
> > would help soothe the user when reading the scrolling marquee maybe?
> >
>
> May I suggest changing the background colour of the page in bright primaries
> every 5 seconds, this will help people with dyslexia... and anybody else who
> likes life.
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>  Ritesh Patel 	
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>  More options	  11:35 (5 hours ago)
> The one thing you have to be consider with the midi background is that
> people with Soundblaster AWE32 'wavetable' sound cards will get a
> slightly better experience than those who don't.  Trumpets in
> particular are enhanced on a wavetable sound card, so try not to use
> them too much, so your users can get as similar experience to each
> other as possible.
>
>
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> On 1 Apr 2008, at 21:28, theUKdude wrote:
>
> > Matt Kane wrote on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:12 AM
> >
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> been lurking on the list for a little while, but have a question
> >>> now.
> >>>
> >>> I'm building a site - table based naturally (none of that CSS
> >>> malarky!) -
> >>> what's the preferred way to achieve a scrolling text marquee where
> >>> the text
> >>> goes backwards?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Probably best to use a Java applet like the BBC News site used to.
> >> Flash is another option, but I hear that not many browsers have it
> >> installed yet. You could also create an animated gif with the text.
> >
> > Are you mad? Animated gifs should only be used for spinning logos,
> > rainbow
> > effects and dancing animals. I agree about the Java applet though.
> > Maybe you
> > should place it in a frameset. Also, a short looping midi background
> > sound
> > would help soothe the user when reading the scrolling marquee maybe?
> >
> > theUKdude
> >
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>  Matt Kane 	
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>  More options	  12:04 (4 hours ago)
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> On 1 Apr 2008, at 11:35, s'unya wrote:
>
> > May I suggest changing the background colour of the page in bright
> > primaries
> > every 5 seconds, this will help people with dyslexia... and anybody
> > else who
> > likes life.
>
> The best way of doing this is by adding lots of body tags, each with a
> different bgcolor set.

I agree!