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[_] at the risk of upsetting any (_)'s who believe the car is the route of all evil

Rick Edwards rick.edwards at gmail.com
Fri Jan 5 16:52:19 GMT 2007

On 05/01/07, Steve Roome <steve at pepcross.com> wrote:

> Yes, I'm very very much aware of this! But they've not tried it on our
> generation yet have they ? (that I know of yet...)
>

Don't know until the records come out of the freedom of information
act in how ever many decades it is! Hey, if it's not gas it's
anti-nerve agent pills.

> You've made my point perfectly, it's not until someone says that it
> won't work and the government will get it through do people start
> worrying.

The problem is knowledge. Most people understand little pieces of what
goes on around them but never put it all together, it's only when it
all goes t*ts up for them and they get arrested, fined and have a
criminal record for forgetting to take their ID card down the pub with
them that they suddenly realise what it was all about.  I've yet to
meet anyone who can provide any evidence or even good reasoning for
the introduction of compulsory ID cards and a centralised National
Identity Register (trust me, I've met the public to discuss this on
this on more than one occasion). In fact when you start to lay out all
of the things that are going on (number plate tracking, ID cards, anti
terror legislation, the nhs spine, etc, etc, etc, etc) then the penny
often drops!

> as I remember, but most of the posts I see on various lists about it,
> it's all a bit late by the time the average person who needs to care
> gets round to it.

Yep, that's why I tend to get vocal about stuff. It's never "too" late IMO.

> Thanks for elaborating the point, I had a bunch of really dull worky
> stuff I needed to get on with first! :)
>

Hell, it's friday, kick back.

> I'm amazed that Mr. Gidden took me so seriously too!
>

Didn't necessarily take you seriously, I picked up on the dryness of
the post, just saw an opportunity and took it ;-)

> We may as well come to accept the advantages that we will have knowing
> that everything is recorded, and in some ways, that does mean that
> when EVERYTHING is recorded you will probably have the ability to find
> out who is watching what by watching them. Whoever they are, government
> included. It's just going to be too easy and cheap.
>

You ever tried to request a copy of the CCTV footage taken by all the
cameras as you walk through the city centre? I know someone who
did...they're still waiting.

rick (not Rick)

>        Steve